Monday 29 September 2008

Daodejing Poem 24

第 二 十 四 章 

跂 者 不 立 , 跨 者 不 行 , 自 見 者 不 明 , 自 是 者 不 彰 。 自 伐 者 無 功 , 自 矜 者 不 長 。 其 在 道 也 , 曰 餘 食 贅 行 。 物 或 惡 之 , 故 有 道 者 不 處 也 。 

Seekers will not be established; long strikes would not work; Self opinioned cannot be enlightened; self conceited will fail; boasting will give you little result; arrogant and you cannot last long. All these belong to Tao; the saying: 'remnants of food or a tumour on the body, which all dislike. hence those with Tao will not let them space to enter'.

Seek for Tao, you cannot find it. Tao is just nasal gaze, and the mind thinking of nothing.

The Tao inside us is a VOID. It is the 'suan kuan' acu point at our nose bridge, in between our 2 eyes. Even nasal gaze cannot see this point. It is the focus or concentration at this point, that we can sense the movement of energy running in our body.


108 comments:

Fairuz said...

Are you dumb, or do u not realize?
Ur bible is full of contradictions..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH2kW_Z9BcQ

it is not the word of god..

u want more proof?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_yLfd2tKNM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ1dKp53-Zc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcFIQgdFXEY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9dMqTxR19s

if these signs are not sufficient for u to know the truth..
then wait til ur time of death...
u will noe that time will alr be too late to repent to ur creator....


ISLAM IS TRUTH..
THERE IS NO OTHER GOD EXCEPT ALLAH...

peace-

Fairuz said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSYrqBPI5xc

Fairuz said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSYrqBPI5xc

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Kew Kah Fatt said...

Fairuz,

Let me discuss with you about the Quran. See my comments in http://uk.geocities.com/alex_kew/chquran/chinesequran.htm . Another in
http://members.lycos.co.uk/alexkew/chquran/chinesequran.htm .

Fairuz said...

Our responsibilty is for us to invite u to our religion..
but if u do not want to join our religion as in disbelieve in Allah and his messengers, I think we both certainly know that Allah (swt) has sealed your hearts..
"We" as muslims are trying to save u frm a grievouse penalty...but if you disbelieve in it, u are going to have to face the consequences.
Chapter 36 of quran verse 8 -10
"Surely We have placed chains on their necks, and these reached up to their chins, so they have their heads kept aloft. And We have made before them a barrier and a barrier behind them, then We have covered them over so that they do not see. And it is alike to them whether you warn them or warn them not: they do not believe. "

Another examples is,(Chapter 67, verse 15)
"He it is Who made the earth smooth for you, therefore go about in the spacious sides thereof, and eat of His sustenance, and to Him is the return after death. "

and i have another question for u,
if Jesus really was the son of god...like what the christians assume because he had no father...then what about Adam and Eve?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKKntnZAwyo
if none of these convince u then i will loose nothing because u will soon get to knw when the angel of death takes away your soul...

Quran Chapter 56 verse 57
"We have created you, why do you not then assent?"
Have you not seen that which you emit? Is it you who created it or are We the creators? We have ordained death among you and We are not to be overcome. from changing your Forms and creating you (again) in (forms) that you do not know.And verily you already know the first creation. Why, then, do ye not reflect? Have you considered what you sow? Is it you that cause it to grow, or are We the growers? f We willed, We verily could make it chaff, then would ye cease not to exclaim: (Saying) Surely we are burdened with debt:Nay, but we are deprived!Have you considered the water which you drink?
Is it you that send it down from the clouds, or are We the senders? If We pleased, We would have made it salty; so why are you not thankful? Have you considered the fire which you strike?
Is it you that produce the trees for it, or are We the producers?
We have made it a reminder and an advantage for the wayfarers of the desert.
Therefore glorify the name of your Lord, the Great.Furthermore I call to witness the setting of the Stars,-
And that is indeed a mighty adjuration if ye but knew,- That this is indeed a qur'an Most Honourable, In Book well-guarded, Which none shall touch but those who are clean: PICKTHAL: A revelation from the Lord of the Worlds.
SHAKIR: A revelation by the Lord of the worlds. Is it to this statement that you are indifferent? And have ye made it your livelihood that ye should declare it false? Why is it not then that when it (soul) comes up to the throat,
And you at that time werelooking on--
And We are nearer to it than you, but you do not see-- Then why is it not-- if you are not held under authority-- Call back the soul, if ye are true (in the claim of independence)?

Fairuz said...

YOU ARE CLEARLY MISINTERPRETING THE QUR'AAN..
YOUR COMMENTS DO NOT HURT GOD NOR DO YOU HURT ANYONE OF US....ON THE CONTRARY, YOU ARE HURTING YOUR OWN SOUL....U'LL HAVE PUNISHMENT IN THE GRAVE...AS WELL AS ON THE DAY OF RESURRECTION...WHOEVER WHO KILLS THEMSELVES WILL BE PUNISHED BY GOD... YOU WILL BE PUNISHED FOREVER AND THAT WILL BE YOUR ETERNAL ABODE...and quran chapter 36 is refering to people of the past when the messengers came to them....not us..

Quran Chapter 52
42. Or do they intend a plot (against thee)? But those who defy Allah are themselves involved in a Plot!

43. Or have they a god other than Allah. Exalted is Allah far above the things they associate with Him!

44. Were they to see a piece of the sky falling (on them), they would (only) say: "Clouds gathered in heaps!"

45. So leave them alone until they encounter that Day of theirs, wherein they shall (perforce) swoon (with terror),-

46. The Day when their plotting will avail them nothing and no help shall be given them.

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Fairuz,

I interpret the Quran according to my insight. Whether people believe me or not, I am not bothered. I am just doing my duty to Nature or what you called Allah.

My words are strong but I don't kill. It is my words that kill. Refer to Surah - Pen.

I preach your spiritual soul or innate Self is your Allah. The One you face towards the Mecca is not your Allah.

Quran is the 3rd book after Torah and Gospel. So you have to read the 3 to understand better the TRUTH.

I study most religious scriptures and make comments. All are focusing at the same root. That is the Mark on our forehead. This is where your spirit seats. This is the gateway to our origin. Heaven and hell belongs to the earth, created by Nature. Our root is Nature.

Fairuz said...

Muhammad is the last messenger of God...
u are a false one...
scientist have alr clarified that the quran is from the divine being(allah) and that Muhammad is the messenger of god...
you are nobody
only people of the book the people following the old testamnet of the bible and the jews and muslims will be allowed to enter paradise on the day of judgement but god will put into hell all of us to clear our sins as for the idol worshippers their idols will be deniers of their worship...and will be enemies to them on the day of judgement...
it's okay for u to think what u wanna but at the end of the day,you will be returned to him(Allah)... and be made to face the consequences whether u want it or not.."And he created you the first time..and to him you will return"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFcbpOlZaCM

Fairuz said...

About the shrine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABwM5IJcZ28

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB6XUhtCVkM

Kew Kah Fatt said...

You try to put Quran as the only holy book. This is wrong as the Quran keeps quoting the Torah and the Gospel and the stories in them with some modified like Isaac was to be sacrified not Ismail in the Quran.

Remember Islam is the religion of Abraham. This is why you Muslims follow them to be circumcised. As God is to condemn the Jews so you Muslims will be condemned.

Be noted I say I am the Praised One or Ahmad in Surah 61 verse 6. Whether you believe or not, it is not of my concern. My concern is to preach the TRUTH. The TRUTH is that your spiritual soul is your Allah. Praying to anyone beside the One inside you is all false. If you are against the One inside you, you will be punished or be taken off the world.

The financial crisis has been proven right as you read http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/comment/revelation17.html .

The punishment from Allah has no mercy. Better you don't try to go against me or you can face punishment from the One inside you.

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Fairuz said...

they reffered to the torah and gospel bcos those were revealed to the messengers before Muhammad.
"Surely those who believed the Jews and Christians before prophet Muhaamad will enter paradise."Chapter 2 of Quran
Those were the messengers sent and those believed in Allah in one god....They were sent by allah these were the twains referred in chapter 36....Thats why they said Muhammad is the last messenger of ALlah....so there is no more

Fairuz said...

Are u actually claiming that ure cleverer than the scientists? They have proven that all religious books had lots of contradictions and many scientific error..But the quran had none of it...
I will not listen to any of ur bullshits as I've alr found the truth..Ur religious contexts could have been made up by people..I dont believe bt the quran is really from Allah...many scientists have proven it....correct n there are many signs of allah even in ur ownself...

Fairuz said...

Our spiritual is not Allah...It is the soul Allah give to every human... And it will be taken away by the Angel Of Death sent by Allah at the time of ur death...
Did u create urself?

Fairuz said...

"The intoxication of death will bring the truth and that was what you were trying to avoid"
Chapter 75 of Quran...

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Genesis chapter 2 verse 7 says of God blew his Spirit into the clay figure to make it alive as Adam. The Spirit is God's Spirit inside us to make us alive. We have to get help from this Spirit inside us for salvation and not from any other God.

I think Quran says about this also. I cannot remember which surah and verse.

If you want to discuss the Quran with me just send your e-mail to me. I surf for a while. So I can answer your email later after going through the Quran for quotations.

Surah 61 is talking about the final prophet who is a conqueror in verse 9.

Fairuz said...

Quran chapter 61,verse 9
It is He Who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the Religion of Truth that he may cause it to prevail over all religions, though the associates may dislike it.
?
God gives life to human
Not that we have god spirit...

Who wrote the bible?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8PQ6_0gJUE

i think u shld knw this that the bible (new testament) was man made...

there is a quote saying abt this in the quran..

"There is among them a section who distort the book with their tongues so that you would think it is part of the book. But it is no part of the book. And that they say it is from God...It is not from God. It is they who tell a lie against God and they know it."
Quran Chapter3 verse 78

Kew Kah Fatt said...

I study most scriptures and found the common TRUTH in them.

If you just read only the Quran, how can you understand other religions ?

See my website at http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/myarticle.html and see the scriptures I had put up.

It is best you e-mail me at alex_kew@yahoo.com so I can take time to reply to you. I surf a little, so cannot reply to you on the spot.

Fairuz said...

I will not read other religion books bcos it has alr became clear to me that many scientists have proven that those books had many scientific errors...and the rest had many errors/contradictions... so there's no point reading it...
Reading it will only leave me astray..>The punishment Allah has no mercy in it..That's for the disbelievers...I've alr pointed out to u who wrote the bible...and before that a number of foreign scientist claiming that the quran is frm the divine being and they have better studies of religions...I think tht it is to this statement u r denying the creator....Allah will surely cause u to taste the severe punishment..Others attribute equals to him...that is the most sinful thing for a human to do..They will get it on the day of recompense(the day of Judgement)...

Kew Kah Fatt said...

If you don't believe the Spiritual Soul inside you is your Allah, this Spiritual Soul inside you will punish you. Don't play afool with the One inside you.

You are 18 and a student staying in Woodlands. You are still young to know life. Open your mind to all scriptures and then you can know the TRUTH.

Fairuz said...

I am 16...
Ur religion is wrong
as it has many scientifc errors...
You are following falsehood...
My soul will not punish me...and ur religion has gt no proof or any miracles...Whereas the quran has...
Where is ur proof...I have not seen any scientists wif any evidence of what u say...
You are a liar...U are concealing truth with falsehood...There are a number of muslims in every counrty ...including the western countries..Even China....
Even Top Scientist have said from their own mouth the Quran is from the divine being..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUPYs0gElU

Kew Kah Fatt said...

The more you argue with me, the more you will feel miserable. Your anger will rise and your blood pressure goes up.

I am a spiritual man and I preach no religion. I use all religious scriptures to preach the TRUTH.

My 2nd preaching is that the Mark on your forehead has to be SEALED, in order to return to our source. The Mark is the Gateway, Garden of Eden underneath which rivers flow, our tears flow.

Fairuz said...

I do not feel miserable...And indeed I will lose nothing..Even if my blood pressure were to rise up, I am nt yet at the stage of dying...Like what u said earlier,I am still young...I see no point discussing u with anything..You will surely knw the truth when u die...I have done my part..But I do feel sorry for someone like u who try to interpret other people's religion without knowledge..and do not even wanna approach a teacher..
But I have shown u many proofs regarding my religion...
We Muslims do not wish to enter paradise but we are only guarding ourselves from the punishment of Allah on the day of ressurrection..It is true what the Quran says..:"For those who disbelieve,it is the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them.They will not believe.."

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Your non stop of commenting here show you are attracted by me. I am a sufi, someone who meditates.

I am looking for women to make babies with me. You might be one of them if you stick on commenting here.

Your spiritual soul is your Allah. If you deny this, the One inside you will punish you.

We are now in the era of punishment and judgment. The world financial crisis is an example which I interpret from Revelation chapter 17. America will go bankcrupt after invading and occupying Iraq.

Quran is plain and most stories are repeat from the Bible with moderation or alteration. Bible condemns the Jews so since you Muslims are like them, you are also condemned.

Revelation chapter 9 verse 15 says of God killing one third of people. That is about 2 billions. I am looking to see whether this is true.

Fairuz said...

I am attracted by u?
I havent even seen you...
You have very sick mind...

The bible(old testament says): God is not a man, God is not the son of man.

New Testament Luke 3:38
the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God

Contradicting verses...

The Quran has said "Haven't they(unbelievers) considered if it is other than Allah..they'll find wihin it many contradictions.."

Kew Kah Fatt said...

I just spend less than 5 minutes here so how can I give you a good reply.

E-mail to me at alex_kew@yahoo.com and then I can discuss in details the quotations from the Quran and others.

I teach meditation, see http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/chinese/meditate.html or http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/meditation.html .

You don't understand what is a sufi ? Even bomohs will not be able to defeat me. I am waiting to punish all of them and all who practise black magic to harm others.

See me at http://profiles.friendster.com/kewkahfatt .

Fairuz said...

Um..Bomohs who try to harm people will go to hell..that is when they associate others with Allah or believe in anything that's greater than him..You do anything to please ur heart. Those who worship satan will end in hell...All of them...Even islam hypocrites....

"And of the people are some who say: We believe in Allah and the Last Day,while they are not believers..

They think to deceive Allah and those who believe, but they decieve not except themselves; but they perceive not.

In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease.Because they habitually used to lie."



Do you have anyhing that will defend you on the day of Resurrection.?

You can punish those who harm others....But do u not remember tht Allah has created death among us? Do u knw the surah which says "Does man think that we will not assmeble his bones? Yes we are able even to proportion his fingertips." Everyone no matter what religion we are or family we come frm has different fingerprints and tongue prints...Do u knw the purpose of that..? Also are you denying the provider....? "A sign for them is the dead earth. We gave it life and we brought from it grains so that they eat of it."


Jesus answered,
"The greatest is,Hear,Israel,
the Lord our God,the Lord is one" **Mark 12;29**

Fairuz said...

It is not reincarnation...It is Resurrect of the dead..

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Resurrection is the rising from the dead on the 3rd day as according to the Bible regarding Jesus.

In Buddhism, Bodhidharma also rose after certain days. People dug his coffin and only found a side of his sandal left. Some people saw him after his death.

This is the 2nd class of cultivation. 1st class is flying to the sky upon the death date like Elijah.

When bones become ashes, how are they to be risen ? Don't be conned by black and white in the Quran and Bible etc.

I hope you can write to me here at alex_kew@yahoo.com so we can discuss in details the quotations from scriptures. I don't spend time here, maybe just less than 10 minutes to upload my post.

The TRUE GOD is your Spiritual Soul inside you. Body goes to soil and soul rises up to God or our source.

Fairuz said...

And man has forgotten his own creation and says WHO WILL GIVE LIFE TO DISINTEGRATED BONES?
Quran Chapter 36.

Quran Chapter 50
Verse 2-4 :And they wonder that there has come to them a warner from among themselves. And the disbelievers say THIS IS AN AMAZING THING.
When we died and have become dust? Are we indeed to be resurrected? That is a distant return.
We know what the earth diminishes and with us is a retaining record.
Verse 11
And we have given life to a dead land...Thus is the resurrection.
Verse 15
Did we fail in the first creation?
But they are in a confusion of a new creation.

Chapter 56
And those on the left hand - Who are the ones on the left hand?
They will be in the midst of scorching winds and scalding water,
And under the shadow of pitch-black smoke;
Neither cool nor beneficial. Before this they lived in a life of ease and plenty.
And persisted in extreme sinfulness.
And they were the ones who say, 'What! when we are dead and have become dust and bones, shall we, indeed, be raised again,
And our forefathers as well?
Say O Mohamed: 'Yes, the earlier ones and the later ones.
'Will all be gathered together unto the fixed time of an appointed day.
'Then, O ye that have gone astray and have rejected the truth,
'You will, surely, eat of the tree of Zaqqèm,And will fill your bellies therewith,
'And will drink boiling water, on top of that,
'Drinking as the insatiable thirsty camels drink.'
This will be their entertainment on the Day of Judgment.
We have created you.So why do you not believe?
And have you seen the sperm-drop that you emit?
Is it you who have created it, or are We the Creator?
We have ordained death for all of you; and We cannot be hindered,
From bringing in your place others like you, and from developing you into a form which you do not know.
And you have, certainly, known the first creation. Why, then, do you not reflect? Do you see what you sow? Is it you who cause it to grow, or are We the grower?

Please read the quran again...
And do not question god...

Quran Chapter 42, verse 21
They follow idols who decree for them religious laws. If it were not for the predertimined decision, they would have been judged immediately. Indeed the transgressors have incurred a painful retribution.

Fairuz said...

I have shown you contradictions in your bible and you are still quoting from it...

Kew Kah Fatt said...

I am not interested in quoting the Quran or other scriptures. I just make general comment.

What I want to preach to the world is the One inside you is your God who seats at the midpoint between your 2 eyes. This midpoint has to be sealed by the Heavenly Way group or I-Kuan Tao.

All others are rubbish. If you still deny you are God, then the God inside you will punish you.

Don't cry to me and pardon you. I have no mercy when I punish.

Fairuz said...

We are not gods. Prove?
The earth is covered by 3/4 water and so is our body. So this means the creator of the earth and ourselves is the same...There is one god.. And u need water if nt u will not survive. Duh? And nw u are denying the provider and claiming we are gods - not true.

Kew Kah Fatt said...

We are God. The final era is the great harmony and everyone will know he is God.

Don't underestimate the spiritual power of the Self. But it also depend on fate or destiny. One is fated to be king and another is fated to be beggar. This is the scheme of the Great God or Universal God. Great God is like ocean we the droplets. When mixed we all are One.

You can visit me at Blk 409, Pandan Gardens, #03-69. Let us discuss with Quran in hand will be much better.

I have no time to write here.

Fairuz said...

We are not the provider of provisions...Therefore we are gods? I don't think so....I disagree with ur points because I did not create myself...

http://www.imeem.com/people/MuwAO-/music/KsoN-KtA/miracles_of_quran_01/

http://www.imeem.com/people/MuwAO-/music/lIycmYr6/harun_yahya_never_plead_ignorance/

earlier in your posts u said earthquakes are caused by us not listening to you?

Take a look at these pictures...The mosques were not even affected...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/hamidul_islam/Miracles%20of%20Islam%20-%20Indonesian%20Mosques%20Stand%20through%20Earthquake%20and%20Tsunami.doc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPxTiZis9D0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yxXl5xNdjU
God signed the tsunami..
Tell me do u have any proof?

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Spiritualism has no proof to show. It is the awareness of it that one believe. When you are in the centre of an earth quake, the fear in you will cause one to seek God or curse God.

I don't give a damn whether people listen to me or not. I just do my duty as required of me.

All scriptures are now useless because we are in a new era which is punishment and judgment.

By doing nothing except meditation and eat vegetarian food, Nature will take its course to resolve all matter. We all are to return to our origin before the final DOOM which might be a new transformation of earth or disintegration.

Fairuz said...

Spiritual = not doing its job.
Does not provide provisions = not god...
How is it possible when our spirits quake the earth? Theyre inside our body...
IF it escapes our body, we will die...DUH!!
create a recitation like this. if u think the quran is nt from god..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=534MJKgazLw

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Quran is from God but it gives the wrong impression to the Muslims. Islam is a religion of Abraham so you have so many stories of the Jews in the Quran. Also Muhammad got you Muslims to circumcise when the Quran does not say so. You circumcise, so you are like the Jews. The Bible condemns the Jews, so you Muslims will be condemned. As long as you still practise circumcision, you Muslims will be condemned.

You don't identify yourself, so how truthful can you be? Only liars keep behind the cloak, dare not to reveal themselves. You one of the liars ? If you are a holy person, you will not be afraid to let others know you.

Everyone visiting my sites can know me and my family. This is sincerity. This is truthful.

Fairuz said...

Muslims circumcise to purify themselves...Do you knw that if u dont circumsize, there will be stain from your urine...When we are dirty we cannot face god. Nor can we touch the quran if we are not purified, our prayers will not be accepted by him...God states "Indeed this is a noble Quran. None touches it unless the purified"

Kew Kah Fatt said...

The Bible already stated very clearly that God wants to punish the circumcised. See Jeremiah chapter 9 verses 25 and 26.

The Bible condemns the Jews so you Muslims too will be condemned because of this circumcision.

God will support the Jews till the foundations of the earth and sky are shaken. In the Bible - New Testament - the coming of Christ is followed by major events in the sky and the earth. This is another confirmation, Jews are condemned because of the circumcision.

Nature gives us the foreskin. It is wrong to cut it off. Everything has its part to play. Just be natural will be ok.

Fairuz said...

But the bible consists of some words of God and some words of man..So its better to refer frm the quran...As it is purely from God....
Yes christ is coming back to earth..and he will spread islam once again..They said that before Jesus's death many will believe in him. We believe that he will kill this devil called 'Dajal' who is known to bring moderate or those who do not practise islam to the wrong path...
It is the sign of the hour ...
Jesus(pbuh) will one day return....
Please watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as88TAxqh-4
The old testament is the word of God...and that the quran is a continuation of the bible....
Watch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZadQtDfW7E

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Quran is the 3rd book but a wrong book. Torah is old laws. Gospel is new laws. Quran goes back to the old laws.

So it is really stupid to be like the Jews. They do not eat pork, so are you. They pray to Jerusalem, so are you but to Mecca. They circumcise, so are you.

If you Muslims do not stop the practice of circumcision, you will suffer. I am warning the Muslims, there will be no mercy when the punishment comes. Revelation records about a third to be killed. That is about 2 billions.

Fairuz said...

Why do Muslims not eat pork?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFW4-1QL6sg

We only circumcise to keep ourselves clean...those who do not circumcise are dirty people who not clean themselves...

Fairuz said...

Leviticus 11:7-8 (King James version)
7: And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
8: Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

Fairuz said...

the black stone:
"I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 138:2)"

"Behold! We gave the site, To Abraham, of the (Sacred) House (i.e., the Kaaba), (Saying): 'Associate not anything (In worship) with Me; And sanctify My House For those who compass it round, Or stand up, Or bow, or prostrate themselves (Therein in prayer). And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways; (The Noble Quran, 22:26-27)"

Kew Kah Fatt said...

No matter how good you write to argue, Nature will still punish the Muslims for disobeying my orders.

See the countries that are suffering are mostly Muslims countries. Somalia, Sudan, Congo, Iraq, Afghanistans are some examples. You can add Indonesia, Pakistan and Bangladesh as well.

I am the new order. Nature will finish off anyone who wants to go against me. I have no mercy when I punish. I control you by the One inside you. So you are in the palm that can squeeze you.

Islam is not your natural religion. In fact your race has no religion. Your initial religion is Hindu plus Buddhism. So your race is 2nd class.

I would not mind argueing with Arabs about Islam, but not you or any other races that adopt Islam as their religion. It is like you have cheapen your race by doing so.

Fairuz said...

You knw my race?

Fairuz said...

Do you knw that only 20% of the world's muslim population are Arabs?
I have arab blood by the way...My mother carries a surname...I have a mixture of Arab and Indian from my mother and my paternal grandmother....What do u noe about me? Do not make assumption about me and I am not lying...I've been to India, Ajmer where my relatives are...You do not knw nothing...My mother's forefathers were arabs who came to india to spread islam...

O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise (each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And Allah has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things). [Quran Al-Hujraat, Chapter #49, Verse #13]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQkEOLv0QOk

Fairuz said...

"It is He who has sent the Messenger with guidance, and the religion of truth, to make it triumphant over all religions."
(Quran 9:32)

Fairuz said...

My cousins are real arabs from Algeria...What's your problem? Islam is an arab religion? HAHAHA.

Fairuz said...

We are all children of Adam...we descended from Adam. Which part of it do you not understand? Not all muslims are real muslims. There are many hypocrites...It is very hard to find real muslims around...

Quran[36:61]
'Did I not enjoin on you, O ye children of Adam, that you worship not Satan - for he is to you an open enemy -

Fairuz said...

HoW can nature punish me?
DO YOU NOT REMEMBER THAT there is only one God.. and we shld worship him?

052.035
Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators?
052.036
Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay, they have no firm belief.

Why did the Quran mention fingertips?

Quran 032.009
But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something of His spirit. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding): little thanks do ye give!

Fairuz said...

Are the arabs the only one with Eyes, ears and hearts?

Fairuz said...

http://members.tripod.com/worldupdates/islamintheworld/id20.htm

Fairuz said...

the creator of nature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUOAGQU4q-0

see what the baby does when listen to quran...he prostrates..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhCCSNQQD7k

Fairuz said...

More signs of Allah in Nature
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eII2h7IFCSc

Kew Kah Fatt said...

No point writing so much but cannot help the Muslims going crazy like the ones doing massacre in Mumbai.

You will see more of the worst to come till you surrender to me or the One inside you at your nose bridge in between your 2 eyes.

Now is the time of punishment and judgment.

You don't tell about yourself so I have to use means to let you talk. You still don't understand the term 'sufi'? Another term for it is spiritual man who does meditation.

So you are half Arab half Indian?

Fairuz said...

"Their intention is to extinguish Alaah's light (by blowing)
with their mouths. But Allah will complete His Light, even though
the Unbelievers may detest (it).
Al Qur'an 61:8

watch what happens to non muslims..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XVvU2M8y1c

Fairuz said...

“They plot & plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah” (Al-Anfal:30)

Fairuz said...

Whatever the crazy muslims did was nothing islamic...They kill innocent people without right,using the name 'islam'. They too will be punished by God..

“Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loves not aggressors.” Al-Qur’an 2:190

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Why you delete some of your comments?

John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

God is Spirit. The Spirit inside you is your Allah. The Quran also say people can kill your body but cannot kill your Spirit. Your Spirit is eternal and non-eternal when fused into the Whole Spirit. It is just like water droplet disappeared into the ocean.

Fairuz said...

"They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. (The Noble Quran, 5:73)"

"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him. (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"

"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)! Come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.' If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).' (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"

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The role of holy spirit in the bible:
"When you send your Spirit, they are created, and you renew the face of the earth. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:30)"

"Where can I go from your Spirit? Where can I flee from your presence? (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 139:7)"

"Teach me to do your will, for you are my God; may your good Spirit lead me on level ground. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 143:10)"

So far, these verses are talking about the Spirit from GOD Almighty. The first verse above, Psalm 104:30, perfectly agrees with the Noble Verses above about GOD Almighty Blowing His Spirit into our mothers' wombs when we're fetus.

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Fairuz said...

3- The Holy Spirit is a Creation of GOD Almighty and it is under Him just like the Angels according to the Noble Quran:

Allah Almighty Said:

"The Day that the Spirit and the Angels will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any who is permitted by (God) Most Gracious, and He will say what is right. (The Noble Quran, 78:38)"

"A questioner asked about a Penalty to befall- The Unbelievers, the which there is none to ward off,- (A Penalty) from God, Lord of the Ways of Ascent. The Angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years: Therefore do thou hold Patience,- a Patience of beautiful (contentment). (The Noble Quran, 70:1-5)"

"Therein come down the Angels and the Spirit by God's permission, on every errand: (The Noble Quran, 97:4)"

"Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth but must come to God) Most Gracious as a servant. He does take an account of them (all), and hath numbered them (all) exactly. And everyone of them will come to Him singly on the Day of Judgment. On those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, will (God) Most Gracious bestow love. (The Noble Quran, 19:93-96)"

Fairuz said...

2-So does this now mean that the Holy Spirit, in the Bible, is part of GOD Almighty?

Absolutely not! The Bible is filled with figurative speech.

1 Samuel 18:10 "The next day an evil spirit from God came forcefully upon Saul. He was prophesying in his house, while David was playing the harp, as he usually did. Saul had a spear in his hand..." GOD Almighty has an evil spirit? Obviously not, it's only metaphoric as mentioned above.

1 Samuel 19:9 "But an evil spirit from the LORD came upon Saul as he was sitting in his house with his spear in his hand. While David was playing the harp,..." ANOTHER EVIL SPIRIT FROM GOD?!

1 Kings 22:22 " 'By what means?' the LORD asked. " 'I will go out and be a LYING spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'

1 Kings 22:23 "So now the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."

2 Chronicles 18:21 " 'I will go and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'

Numbers 24:2 "When Balaam looked out and saw Israel encamped tribe by tribe, the Spirit of God came upon him"

Judges 3:10 "The Spirit of the LORD came upon him, so that he became Israel's judge and went to war. The LORD gave Cushan-Rishathaim king of Aram into
the hands of Othniel, who overpowered him."

Judges 6:34 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Gideon, and he blew a trumpet, summoning the Abiezrites to follow him."

Judges 11:29 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites."

Judges 14:6 "The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power so that he tore the lion apart with his bare hands as he might have torn a young goat. But he told
neither his father nor his mother what he had done."

Judges 14:19 "Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power. He went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men, stripped them of their belongings and gave their clothes to those who had explained the riddle. Burning with anger, he went up to his father's house."

Judges 15:14 "As he approached Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the LORD came upon him in power. The ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands."

1 Samuel 10:6 "The Spirit of the LORD will come upon you in power, and you will prophesy with them; and you will be changed into a different person."

1 Samuel 10:10 "When they arrived at Gibeah, a procession of prophets met him; the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he joined in their prophesying."

1 Samuel 11:6 "When Saul heard their words, the Spirit of God came upon him in power, and he burned with anger."

1 Samuel 16:13 "So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the LORD came upon David in power. Samuel then went to Ramah."

Luke 1:35 "The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come upon you (Mary), and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God."

Luke 2:25 "Now there was a man in Jerusalem called Simeon, who was righteous and devout. He was waiting for the consolation of Israel, and the Holy Spirit was upon him."

So if Jesus is GOD because the Holy Spirit came upon him, then the others mentioned above should also be GOD Almighty too.

Fairuz said...

The comments I deleted on
05 October 2008 00:27
were comments which were repeated.

04 December 2008 21:07
due to some errors...

Fairuz said...

*
05 October 2008 00:27 & 18 October 2008 15:00

Fairuz said...

If we really are gods, tell me did you really chose to be a boy?

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Jeremiah
9:25 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will punish all them which are circumcised with the uncircumcised;
9:26 Egypt, and Judah, and Edom, and the children of Ammon, and Moab, and all that are in the utmost corners, that dwell in the wilderness: for all these nations are uncircumcised, and all the house of Israel are uncircumcised in the heart.

Circumcision is condemned because most of the Muslims and Jews are not circumcised in the heart.

The Spirit inside us has no gender. Due to time and space factors, when it enters a new body it will choose a gender according the the destiny or fate of that new body.

It is no point for you to keep arguing with me. Study Surah 61 carefully. Most likely I am Ahmad or the Praised One who is indulged in magic. My magic is the spirituality of meditation a similar form to sufi culture of Islam.

The more you argue with me, the more you will be under my spell. Come to my home if you want to be cured, if others cannot cure you. Can ask your bomoh to test my power.

Fairuz said...

It doesnt really matter whether you circumsize or not. God Almighty said that he could forgive us all.
But the one that is unforgivable is that you associate partners or equals to him.

"God forgiveth not that partners/equals should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with God is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed." (The Noble Quran, 4:48)"


Surely, only Allah is the lord of retribution, whether u dispute
or not it is a fact.

"...and Allah is exalted in Might, THE OWNER OF RETRIBUTION. Quran Chapter 3, verse 4

You for sure did not create yourself in your mother's womb,so don't you type nonsence saying we
are gods... muslims will be punished...bla bla bla just bcos we circumsized, isn't that stupid? I just told you, if you do not circumsize, there will be a urine stain,and with that,our prayers will not be accepted...

I dont knw any bomohs..Most bomohs are doing shirik...

You indulge in magics?

They followed what the evil ones gave out (falsely) against the power of Solomon: the blasphemers Were, not Solomon, but the evil ones, teaching men Magic, and such things as came down at babylon to the angels Harut and Marut. But neither of these taught anyone (Such things) without saying: "We are only for trial; so do not blaspheme." They learned from them the means to sow discord between man and wife. But they could not thus harm anyone except by Allah's permission. And they learned what harmed them, not what profited them. And they knew that the buyers of (magic) would have no share in the happiness of the Hereafter. And vile was the price for which they did sell their souls, if they but knew! - Quran chapter 2 verse 102

yes, our spirit may roam around, but on the day of Judgement all will be present..everyting animate or inanimate will be destroyed,on that day all will be gathered to Allah including spirits/jinns/satan.

Kew Kah Fatt said...

By expounding Surah 48 verse 29, I am doing magic. See http://uk.geocities.com/alex_kew/chquran/surah48.htm .

By expounding Hebrews chapter 9 verses 2 to 5, I am doing magic. See http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/hebrew9.html .

Therefore I put up http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/docu.html to help others. And don't let me curse you like what I did in the last part of http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/election97.html and the last part of http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/election84.html .

JB Jeyaratnam was in the list but he died not too long ago. The son of the JC, Amarjeet Singh was in prison for drug.

So when I fix my mind on you, you are cursed.

Jesus did say that you are God.

John
10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
10:37 If I do not the works of my Father, believe me not.
10:38 But if I do, though ye believe not me, believe the works: that ye may know, and believe, that the Father is in me, and I in him.

Father is in me means Spirit is in me. Spirit is God. My body is not God. When the 2 are fused, then both is God. Fused is when fully enlightened and can fly in the air. Sakyamuni Buddha cannot fly. Elijah flew to the air when he left the earth.

Fairuz said...

you are not logical at all. Give life to something if u shld be truthful. =) There really is the time when the world will come to an end...so be prepared for it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nYoz4HxjNs

Fairuz said...

The Truth about Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIPhUY8kIBo

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Truth is in the words of all scriptures. Don't quote Youtube video.

Wife of Lee Kuan Yew in hospital is a sign bad time ahead like Israel's Sharon in coma is saying Israel is in bad time. US financial crisis affecting the world is in Revelation chapter 17. Read http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/comment/revelation17.html . Here I predicted the downfall of Husein.

Quran is mostly in general form so it is harder to quote and explain. Like the light on the hand and the forehead is talking about the mark on the hand and forehead similar to the Revelation.

The Chinese scriptures are the ones that can save the world. I am practising 'wu wei' or inaction in Taoism or Taoteching. This is similar to the Daxue of Confucianism and I-Ching, the book of change.

Singapore is Patmos Island where revelation of Jesus Christ is done by me. Therefore Singapore will be the New Holy Land. That is why the building of the 2 casinos is also a sign bad time is ahead. Nature will punish the Singapore government for their excesses.

You haven't read my Election'84 and Election'97 articles? Read who are the people I cursed. I don't give a damn to who ever goes against me.

Fairuz said...

Jesus Christ is no God.
Those people who follow the chinese scriptures worship idols..

"DO they have legs they can walk with? Do they have hands they can grasp with? Do they have eyes they can see with? Do they have ears they can hear with? (Quran 7:195)

" If you associate others with God, your actions will come to nothing and you will be among the losers."
(Qur'an 39:65)

"How many generations We have destroyed before them! Do you see a trace of any one of them or hear even a whisper of them?
(Qur'an 19:98)

As for those who denied Our Signs and the encounter of the hereafter, their actions will come to nothing. Will they be repaid except for what they did? (Qur'an, 7: 147)

But as for those who did not believe and denied Our Signs and meeting in the hereafter, they will be summoned to the punishment (Qur'an, 30: 16).

God augments those who are guided by giving them greater guidance. In your Lord's sight, right actions that are lasting are better both in reward and end result (Qur'an, 19: 76).

Everything in the heavens and earth belongs to Him, and the religion belongs to Him, firmly and for ever. So why do you fear anyone other than God? (Qur'an, 16: 52)

Wealth and sons are the embellishment of the life of this world. But, in your Lord's sight, right actions that are lasting bring a better reward and are a better basis for hope. (Qur'an, 18: 46)

On the Day the Last Hour arrives, the evildoers will swear they have not even tarried for an hour. That is the extent to which they are deceived. (Qur'an, 30: 55)

In the Qur'an (10: 7-8), God commands:

As for those who do not expect to meet Us and are content with the life of this world and at rest in it, and those who are heedless of Our Signs, their shelter will be the Fire because of what they earned.

If anyone desires to cultivate the hereafter, We will increase him in his cultivation. If anyone desires to cultivate this world, We will give him some of it but he will have no share in the hereafter. (Qur'an, 42: 20)

Do not direct your eyes longingly to what We have given certain of them to enjoy, the flower of the life of this world, so that We can test them by it. Your Lord's provision is better and longer lasting. (Qur'an, 20: 131)

"Our forefathers associated others with god aforetime and we are merely descendants coming after them" (Quran 7:173)

"Say:' Can any of your partner-gods guides to the truth. Who has more right to be followed-He Who guides to the truth, or he who cannot guide unless he is guided?'
(Qur'an 10:35)

"God is he who created you,then provides for you, then will cause you to die,and bring you back to life. Can any of your partner-gods do any of that?"
(Qur'an 30:40)

"Do they hear you when you call,or do they help you or do you any harm?"

" If My servants ask you about Me, I am near. I answer the call of the caller when he calls on Me."
(Qur'an 2:186)

" The kingdom of the heavens and earth belongs to God and, on the Day that the Hour arrives, that Day the liars will be lost."
(Qur'an 45:27)

"The call of truth is made to him alone. Those whom they call upon apart from him do not respond from them at all."
(Qur'an 13:14)

"God-He is the truth and what you call upon besides Him is falsehood."
(Quran 31:30)

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Your Spirit is God. The Spirit in Jesus is God.

It is no point quoting the Quran for me. It is a plain Quran with many stories from the Bible plus alteration.

You are a small fry. I am getting Lee Kuan yew and his family. To make myself world known I have to knock Lee Kuan Yew down. And his time is approaching. The sign is there. His wife is in hospital, so anything can happen now. The financial crisis adds more pressure.

In my http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/election84.html , I said that if Lee Kuan Yew did not step down as PM, he and his family will suffer like his grandson is an albino and his daughter ran away with a dark skin doctor.

I intended to stand for election in Tanjong Pagar against Lee, so I wrote that article. I could not manage to get 6 Tanjong Pagar residents to second for me, so I did not manage to participate. JB Jeyaratnam did not want to help me and he saw the article then telling me not to engage him as counsel if Lee sue me regarding the article. This is why I curse JB Jeyaratnam in http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/election97.html .

I have nothing more to talk to you. If you continue, I will keep on attacking the Lee family and PAP.

Fairuz said...

Please read:
Mohummed[p]was illiterate ,who could not read nor could he write nor had he been in contact with any Christian or Judaic authority .

Furthermore, the assertion ofJudeo-Christian borrowing raises a number of questions. JamalBadawi puts forward the following six questions:

"Why is it in spite of theabundance of historical material on Muhammad(P)'s life, and inspite of the extensive research on his life for centuries by hissevere critics, that it was not possible to discover themysterious teacher(s) through whom Muhammad(P) might have learnedall that?

It is known that Muhammad(P) was opposed, ridiculed and persecuted for nearly 13 years by his owncontemporaries. With this magnitude of severe enemies, was it not possible for them to prove to the masses that Muhammad(P)'s claimof revelation was sheer fabrication? Was it not possible for themto reveal and name the person whom they alleged to be the human source or sources of his teachings? Even some of his adversaries who had made this assertion, changed their minds later on andaccused him, instead, of magic or being possessed by evil... etc.Muhammad(P) was raised among hispeople and every aspect of his life was exposed to them, especially by the openness that characterizes tribal life in thedesert. How could the multitudes of his contemporaries, includingmany of his close relatives who knew him so well, how could theybelieve in his truthfulness if they had any doubt that he wasclaiming credit for ideas taught to him by some other teachers without bothering to give them credit?

What kind of teacher might have taught Muhammad(P) a coherent and complete religion that changed the face of history? Why didn't he or they (if any) speak againstthe alleged student who continued learning from them, whileignoring them and claiming some other divine source for his teachings?

How could many Jews and Christians amongst his contemporaries become Muslims and believe in his truthfulness if they knew he was copying from their scriptures or learning from their priests or rabbis?

It is known that some of the Qur'anic revelations to Muhammad(P) were revealed in the presence of people. The Qur'ân was revealed over the span of 23 years, where then that was mysterious, perhaps invisible teacherof Muhammad(P)? How could he have hidden himself for so long? Or how could Muhammad(P) who was constantly surrounded by companions, how was he able to make frequent secret visits to that mysterious teacher or teachers for 23 years without even being caught once?

The answer to all these questions are never given. But the Christian missionaries' logic is that still Muhammad(P) borrowed from the Judeo-Christian sources even though there is no evidence to show. What you do not know, you do not have to show; just say it and it becomes so."

Karen Armstrong in her book A History Of God writes about the revelation to the Prophet Muhammadby God.

In about the year 610 an Arab merchant of the thriving city of Mecca in Hijaz, who had neverread the Bible and probably never heard of Isaiah, Jeremiah and Ezekiel, had an experience that was uncannily similar to theirs.

Roger DuPasquier, a Swiss journalist and author, asserts that;

To this day no-one has put forward a defensible explanation of how an unlettered caravan merchant of the early seventh century might have been able, by his own devices, to produce a text of such inimitable beauty, of such capacity to stir emotion, and which contained knowledge and wisdom which stood so far above the ideas current among mankind at that time. The studies carried out in the West which try to determine the 'sources used by Muhammad', or to bring to light the psychological phenomenon which enabled him to draw theinspiration from his 'subconscious', have demonstrated only one thing: the anti-Muslim prejudice of their authors. We still want to add some questions that need to be answered.

If Mohammad borrowed from Judeo-Christian sources,

Why does the Holy Quran scold them for the interpolations they inserted in their books and then copy from them?

If Mohammed had been copied fromthe Holy Book , he would not have scolded them at least toescape their objections and to win them for his side at least to avoid any confrontation with them.

Those who claim that Mohammed copied from the scripture

should tell us where was thattranslated copy that he copied from , according to thehistorical authority , there was not any translated copy in the time of the prophet Mohammed or even long after his death?

If the Holy Quran copied from the Bible , why does the Holy Quran launch this fierce critique against the Bible concerning the story of Trinity in the Bible but even renounces this fact and most strikingly shows them thesource from which they got the concept of Trinity .

The Holy Quran says : ….The Messiah is the son of Allah. That is their saying with their mouths. They imitate the saying of those who disbelieved of old."

Recent studies and exploration into the ancient religions prove that there were sixteen saviors in the human history , all of them were long anterior of Jesus ,many of the sayings that they ascribe to Jesus were found in the ancient heathen religions?

Did Mohammed explore and study the ancient religions and come to the conclusion that the concept of Trinity was inserted in the Christianity.

If he was an imposter why did he reject this concept and even corrected it giving good reasons?

If Mohummed [p] had copied from the holy book, why did he not copy the story of creation in Genesis , the story of creation in the Holy Quran is mentioned in a way that is completely in agreement with the newly discovered facts. ( Big Bang ,expansion of the universe and the Big crunch is mentioned in the Holy Quran ).Moreover the Holy Quran gives an account to the stories of the prophets and the perished nationsin a way that fills you with ecstasy , sometimes you find theHoly Quran in agreement with some parts of the Holy Books andthen in disagreement with other parts .The story of Joseph is the best example , if you compare these holy books(Pseudepigrapha ,Talmud, Targum ,Midrash) together concerning the story of Joseph you will find a lot ofcontradictions between them and then if you include the Holy Quran you will find that the Holy Quran is in conformity with them in the most reasonable parts ,i.e, it is in agreement withthis part in this book while it is in disagreement with anotherpart in the same book and then you find it in agreement with another book concerning the part it is already in disagreement with the previous one . Did Mohammed read all of these bookstogether? What was that historical criterion on which he based his copy? What litmus paper did he have to check which is valid and which is not? Moreover , the Quranic story is always complete though condensed in a few lines that are replete with meanings that can be classified under many tenets .

The Quranic story moves yourheart , fills your eyes with tears , adds spiritual dimensions , set the best examples for the believers to follow when being confronted with hardships of life , The Quranic stories havetheir distinguishing character . The main purpose of the Quranic story is.

Fairuz said...

Many people would say:
(1) the Prophet Muhammad didsteal his material or

(2) the revelation he received was from the same god who sent Moses, Jesus and the earlier prophets, as the Prophet Muhammad himself claimed. If it werethe latter, it would explain why there would be much overlap in the teachings and message. The same God sent the earlier prophets and is simply recounting their stories again in the new revelation.

However, I immediately started tonotice some glaring differences between the Quran and the Bible, even with respect to the teachings about God. If the Prophet Muhammad was “editing” what he was hearing from the Bible—and by the way, at that time, there was no Bible available in Arabic—then he was doing an excellent job.

I found that the strange teachings about God that one finds throughout the Bible are completely and unequivocally missing from the Quran. For the sake of brevity, only a few examples illustrating this point shall be given.

The New International Version of Genesis 3:8-11, reads,“Then the man and his wife heard the sound of the LORD God as he was walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and they hid from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. (9) But the LORD God called to the man, “Where are you?” (10) He answered, “I heard you in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; so I hid.” 11 And he said, “Who told you that you were naked? Have you eaten from the tree that I commanded you not to eat from?”

Here, God is pictured as walking in the garden in the cool of the day. What is even more astonishing is that Adam and Eve were able to hide from God and he had to ask, “Where are you?” If a human is able to hide from Him in the garden, how is it that this Lord is going to have knowledge of the sins that people commit? It would be difficult for any human to gender in his heart the kind of love and fear of God that he should have when he believes that his God is so faulty and weak that an event like this could occur to him.

In Genesis 32:24-28, there is the story and literal description of Jacob wrestling with and defeating God. In verse 28, it says,

“You [Jacob] have wrestled withGod and with men, and you have won.” In other words, the creator of the universe whom mankind is expected to worship and submit to was defeated by a mere mortal in a wrestling match.

The Old Testament even picturesGod as one who intended to do evil but then repented. Exodus32:14states:

“And the Lord repented of theevil which he thought to do unto his people” (KingJames Version). It would not be surprising for anyone to turn away from God and not consider Him worthy of worship if He himself has to repent from His own evil.

The Old and New Testamentsdistort the image of the prophets and defame them. Some prophetsgot drunk! Some showed their nakedness to others! Some pretendfoolishness! And some fornicate and commit adultery!

In the Qur'an, these distortions are non-existent. The reader to the Qur'an will find continuous glorification to the prophets of God because they are the `God-Elects' and they are the most righteous of all men.

The story of creation and human history in the Old Testament contradicts the most basic science findings.

In the Qur'an, there are many verses of a scientific nature that discuss the creation, the development of the embryo, the origin of fresh underground water, and other physical and scientific phenomena that were discovered hundreds of years after the revelation of the Qur'an. None of these verses contradict any of the proven scientific facts.

Now, if the Qur'an had a Jewish-Christian' origin, one would expect to find in the Qur'an the same errors and distortions that are in the Old and New Testaments. The question that must be asked here: how could Muhammad correct the distortions in the Old and New Testaments?

Another more question is that "How can you interpret the existence of some stories which were not mentioned in the widely-known bibles but only found insome codices that were found recently , these were not known tothe contemporary Christians of prophet Mohammed ,moreover they were in languages that were at that time defunct . Did Mohammedread the Pseudepigrapha which was not known to his contemporary Christians.

Did Mohammed read the Red Sea scroll , which remained hidden in one of the caves of the Dead sea and only were found in the 1948 ?Did Mohammed read the codices of Naga Hamadi in Egypt and that were only found a few years ago?

Did Mohummed read the Bible of Judas which was found recently in Egypt and only translated into English a few years ago in US . This bible in conformity with the Holy Quran concerning the story of Crucifixion , it states thatit was not Jesus who was crucified and some one else was.

Did Mohammed know all of these languages that these codices were written in?

These books were written on leather , so huge and so easily to be notices by his enemies who were searching for any proof against his prophethood.

The similarity between the Holy Quran and the Holy Book doesn't mean that the Holy Quran borrows from them , it means that both came from the same source.

Does Similarities imply borrowing ?

Let's start with an example. Prophet Noah(P)was given certain commandments. So was Prophet Moses(P)after him. If we were to see that the followers of Prophet Noah (P)accusing of the followers of Prophet Moses(P), how do we expect the followers of Prophet Moses(P) to respond? We might hear a response like this

The Law has come from the same source (from the one and only God),Of course we would expect similar teachings and not such as God is a twin or has a daughterfrom eternity etc. Any differences from absolute similarities would mean correction of the message that got corrupted .Any other differences would mean additional Law with the newer revelation.

The new revelation from the same source comes with its own proof and evidences, otherwise anyone can attempt to invent 'revelation' (while not coming from that same source - God) and mislead many thereby. If there were no proofs or evidences then how can someone verify its truthfulness and authenticity, believe in it and accept it ?

We will thus see that the emphasis shifts to verifying the inherent proofs or evidences of the fresh revelation when older (or traces of the older) revelation still exists. Therefore, similarity between two revelations can even imply that the later revelation is from God.

Fairuz said...

We are no gods, tell me did u create yourself? Come on,don't be a liar.

Fairuz said...

Inconcistencies in the Bible:

GE 1:3-5 On the first day, God created light, then separated light and darkness.
GE 1:14-19 The sun (which separates night and day) wasn't created until the fourth day.

GE 1:11-12, 26-27 Trees were created before man was created.
GE 2:4-9 Man was created before trees were created.

GE 1:20-21, 26-27 Birds were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before birds were created.

GE 1:24-27 Animals were created before man was created.
GE 2:7, 19 Man was created before animals were created.

GE 1:26-27 Man and woman were created at the same time.
GE 2:7, 21-22 Man was created first, woman sometime later.

JN 1:1, 10:30 Jesus and God are one.
JN 14:28 God is greater than Jesus.

JN 1:1 Jesus was God incarnate.

AC 2:22 Jesus was a man approved by God.

JN 3:17, 8:15, 12:47 Jesus does not judge.

JN 5:22, 5:27-30, 9:39,
AC 10:42, 2CO 5:10 Jesus does
judge.

JN 5:31 Jesus says that if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is not true.

JN 8:14 Jesus says that even if he bears witness to himself, his testimony is true.

JN 10:27-29 None of Jesus' followers will be lost.
1TI 4:1 Some of them will be lost.

Fairuz said...

MUSLIM believe in all prophets Jesus ,Ibraham Noha and Moses ---- est peace be upon them
there are no differeces betewen them.
ch 2 83) Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma`il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord; we make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

Jesus peace be him said Matt 5-17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

As God said in Koran ch 46
(8) Say (O Muhammad SAW):"I am not a new thing among the Messengers (of Allâh) (i.e. I am not the first Messenger) nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am but a plain warner.

chapter 3-58( Verily, the likeness of 'Īsā (Jesus) before Allâh is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was.
Allah created Adam Without Father or Mother
Thus, Islam is continued message for what all prophets called to worship one God. In addition, the last prophet is Mohammed peace be upon him

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Are you crazy?
You don't understand what I said?

Lee Kuan Yew went around in 2002/2003 to tell the world to aid America to invade Iraq because of the lies in WMD. So where are the WMD? Therefore Singaporeans will have to suffer because of his sins.

Lee Kuan Yew brags of renewal of PAP. It is the renewal of yes men to kick out the no-men. Does he renew himself?

My article http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/election84.html will bury PAP. They will not survive unless they change the party name.

Fairuz said...

I'm not crazy..I don't care about Lee Kuan Yew or anything like that..I only care that you said our spirits are god,which is not true. Our quran contains many stuff from the gospel and torah because :

Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma`il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord; we make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Idiot, I don't care whether you believe me or not. I am just doing my duty.

Care more what will happen next to the world and Singapore that might affect you. Keep indulging on the stupid Quran will lead you no where. The only place you can land is the mental hospital.

You have no brain of what I am doing. With you idiot Muslims like this, that is why the world is upside down.

You are making me more notorious. I should thank you for that. All the postings are recorded and can appear on archive.

You search my name, and there are many negative reports or archive about me. You just add more fuel to them.

Any moment the big bang can happen and you will see what sort of world we will have soon.

Fairuz said...

Do you have any idea how life came to this world? You have no idea. whereas the quran does state.stop spreading lies. You say the quran is stupid, prove it by producing a sura like the quran..if you are truthful.

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Idiot, I have most scriptures published in my websites. Don't talk too much of the stupid Quran.

Psalms 82 verse 6 says you are God. Jesus quoted this in John 10 verse 34.

Hui Neng preached the essence of mind is inherent in everyone of us. He adviced others to seek the Buddha in oneself.

Lee Kuan Yew allowed 2 casinos in Singapore. This is another sign of trouble for his family and Singapore.

If he and his son Lee Hsien Loong do not step down, there will be more trouble for Singapore and the world.

You can go to hell, but your Spirit is Allah. Your Spirit can reborn again as another person for salvation.

Tell these postings to your friends, so in case you landed in mental hospital or die, your friends can know what is happening. I want the world to know whoever opposes me will suffer or die.

Fairuz said...

WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
I'm telling you to prove to me the quran is stupid..by making a recitation like the sura in the quran..
My spirit is not Allah..
how can i go to hell when hell is not even created if u claim everyone is God?

Fairuz said...

Everything is created. Would you believe me if a building wasn't built by anybody? There must be a builder...Therefore there must be a creator..And the creator is Allah.. Like the sky... It is Allah who created the sky...

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Idiot, the punishment to earth in now apparent and you still bother to argue about scriptures. See my article on Revelation chapter 17 in http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/comment/revelation17.html .

This is talking about America attacking Iraq and later becomes bankrupt like what is happening now. So those who aided America to invade and occupy Iraq will also be punished. Singapore is one of them. So if Lee Kuan Yew and Lee Hsien Loong do not step, Singapore and the world will suffer further.

Idiot, can you wake up? Or you prefer to stay in mental hospital?

Fairuz said...

No the thing is,if you cannot prove the Quran wrong(which is produce a sura,together with its meaning and recitation) then what's the point of calling people idiot? The Quran only warns you of a tremendous day.
Don't ask me to wake up when you yourself is not,things just don't happen by chance.
The Quran also contains many scientific facts which were only found out many centuries later. The concept of Darwinism has also been refuted by scientists.
The translation of the Quran is only a mere interpretation of its real meaning. Please do not say anything you have no knowledge of.

Indeed there have come to you clear proofs from your Lord; whoever will therefore see, it is for his own soul and whoever will be blind, it shall be against himself. (Quran Chapter 6,verse 104)

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Idiot, what is most pressing issue is the financial crisis. Don't bother to quote the stupid Quran.

I repeat, the financial crisis is due to Revelation chapter 17 about American invading and occupying Iraq. This is the punishment to make America bankrupt and make the supporters suffer.

Since Lee Kuan Yew did the idiot thing of speaking to world leaders coaching them to aid America, Singapore will also be punished.

Therefore he and his son have to step down to avoid further punishment to Singapore.

If you only concern about your belief, you can get lost. To me the Quran is a stupid book. Circumcision is a stupid thing to do, which is against Nature.

This is my blog, that is why I write here. I can't be bother with you in other blog. You don't identify yourself and want to talk big. Get lost from here.

Fairuz said...

Why you calling me idiot?
I told u to produce a sura like the Quran. You can't even do that.
Producing a sura in the Quran means..explaining the beginning of the universe,how life on earth began...why we exist...and many other stuff..like the Quran...many scientific facts found in the Quran have been known to be true many centuries later....and make sure it makes sense to succeeding generations.
If really you don't want anyone posting a comment here, then you shouldnt have let it shown to the public.Identifying myself will not solve any problem..what does it got to do with this debate anyways?

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Idiot, my duty is to preach the Truth, not reciting new scriptures. I explain all scriptures on earth that I can find.

I have written many articles in http://sg.geocities.com/alex_kew/myarticle.html . My writing now are in blogs like http://kewkahfatt.blog.friendster.com andFacebook plus here. I also argue in forum expecially Google soc.culture.singapore/china etc.

My concern is if Lee Kuan Yew and Lee Hsien Loong do not step down, the financial might get worst. Then many people will be out of job and trouble will rise.

Also there will be major earth quake, flood, storm, fighting etc that will kill and invalid many people. This is what Bible says the pangs of child birth.

The very Truth is that your innate Self is your Savior which is situated at the midpoint between your 2 eyes at the nose bridge. Here it has to be sealed in order the Self can return home to VOID.

Fairuz said...

Ohh, i see.
So where's your prove the Quran is stupid? You have not learnt arabic to prove the Quran is stupid. What kind of "tuth" your preaching,if you are not well-learned in the Quran?

Fairuz said...

*truth

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Idiot, see how many people commented here ? Don't be the odd one out.

I don't have to answer to you because you are a nobody. I am going after Lee Kuan Yew and his son plus other big shots. So you better get lost from here.

I don't give a damn whether people believe me or not. My duty is to preach and spread the Truth.

You better let your friends know what you did here, in case you are admitted into a mental hospital, the know what is happening. They can seek my help.

Quran is not stupid but the people using the Quran are mostly stupid. Quran does not advocate circumcision, but you idiots circumcised. Why? Because you want to be like the Jews, following the teaching of Abraham or Ibraham.

After studying the Gospel, most teaching in the Quran copied the Torah. So how can you people be enlightened but only stupid.

Quran is mainly for the holy people who can spare time for the spiritual. In this modern time how can an adult pray 5 times a day and be productive.

Also the prigrimage of Mecca is now for the rich and elite. How many percentage of Muslims can really go there ? If Islam is only the religion of the Arabs, then it is still possible to make it there. But for a poor man in Indonesia, he has no dream of going there in his life time. That is why I say you are stupid. Use logic to see what is really happening around us. Don't stick blindly to the scripture.

Fairuz said...

Muhammad did not bring a new thing. Tell me who is the idiot who did not read the Quran properly...he was referring to the gospel and torah which was revealed by the previous prophets.Muhammad is only the seal of the prophets.

Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma`il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord; we make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

IDIOT..You did not read properly nor understand anything...Like I said, you did not learn arabic and are not well-learned in the Quran. What kind of truth u preaching..?

That's why going to Mecca is only for the wealthy ones and are able-bodied to go there....Those who can afford to go there are obligated to do so. Please learn Islam properly.

They did not copy anything from Gospels or Torah...it is just a continuation of what was revealed before this...
There were many prophets before Prophet Muhammad..
The scientists have found many scientific facts in there which were found out many centuries later.....
Tell me are you cleverer than the scientists to prove them wrong.? Or maybe produce a sura like it...
No you can't do that.
You have no knowledge of the universe...
Go learn Arabic if it really is truth u are preaching..

Fairuz said...

Quran Chapter 80
11 Nay, surely it is a Reminder.
12 So let him, who will, mind it.
13 In honoured books,
14 Exalted, purified,
15 In the hands of scribes,
16 Noble and pious
17 Woe to man! How ungrateful is he!
18 Of what thing did He create him?
19 Of a small life-germ. He creates him, then proportions him,a
20 Then makes the way easy for him,
21 Then He causes him to die, then assigns to him a grave,
22 Then, when He will, He raises him to life again.
23 Nay, but he does not what He commands him.
24 Then let man look at his food —
25 How We pour down abundant water,
26 Then cleave the earth, cleaving (it) asunder,

Fairuz said...

See Christian Priests converts to islam.
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/yusuf.asp

Fairuz said...

Please read:
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/Yusuf_story.asp

http://www.islamtomorrow.com/priests_n_preachers.asp

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Happy New Year !

Teaching of Taoteching is that Tao is in everyone.

Teaching of Confucianism is that innate self is pure in nature.

Teaching of Hui Neng is to seek the Buddha inside one's own mind.

Lotus Sutra teaches that there is only 1 Buddha way, not the 3 vehicles.

Bhagavad Gita chapter 2 says our Spirit is the Supreme Being.

So, idiot, you base your argument only on Quran and Bible, but I study all to get the TRUTH.

Your 1st post here is already lies. This blog post is about Taoteching Poem 24. I do not talk about Bible in this blog post.

You are mad. Better get lost before you get worst by arguing with me.

Fairuz said...

Human beings did not create anything...and have very limited knowledge. The Quran explains the creation of the universe and still you are denying it and refer to some meaningless scrpitures with many scientific mistakes. Tell me which one I would rather believe? Many predictions in the Quran were found to be true centuries later.
The whole Quran has been memorised by more than 10,000 people around the world.
Can you create a book like that? I don't think so?
PS: You are not well-learned in the Quran nor did you learn arabic.
Once again what truth are you preaching?
Tell me do you speak arabic?

Fairuz said...

And earlier in your post you said the Quran copied the bible(old testament and the Jews?
I have shown you a verse in the quran which proves you wrong...If u do not knw about that fact how can you go far "preaching the truth"?

Kew Kah Fatt said...

Idiot, Quran copied Creation, Adam, Eve, Noah, Abraham, Ismail, Jacob, Moses, David, Solomon, Jesus etc etc. Torah was written before BC 586 and Gospel was written after AD 33.

God condemns Jews, so Muslims are condemned because you Muslims follow their footsteps.

The problem now is circumcised are killing circumcised. This is what God wants you to do.

Only Chinese scriptures can save the world. I am expounding them in my articles like Election 97.

Singaporeans will reject me because prophet is always rejected at home. Refer to what Jesus said about this. So DOOM is coming to wake up the people. Once they recognise me as their Savior, then the world can have peace.

We are now in the pangs of childbirth. So this suffering of the world cannot be avoided.

Fairuz said...

that's because they were prophets before Muhammad... Muhammad completed the religion damn it.
Why don't u understand?
Your the idiot who doesnt knw anything?!

Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma`il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets, from their Lord; we make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

which part of it don't u understand?
Muhammad was the last/seal of the prophet. Before prophet Muhammad there were many messengers before him revealing the same thing.
I think ur the idiot. Even Christian priests who study the bible and Quran decides to embrace islam. I think you lack knowledge and is stubborn. Yes those books were written before the Quran.
It is also well-known that the Prophet did not know how to read or write: he was illiterate. So there was no question of his plagiarizing the Bible, even if an Arabic copy did in fact exist in his time. What then of the charge that he was taught by some Christians?

*{Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled. Nor does he say [aught] of [his own] desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him. He was taught by One Mighty in power.}* (An-Najm 53:2–5)

*{And thou wast not [able] to recite a Book before this [Book came] nor art thou [able] to transcribe it with thy right hand: in that case indeed would the talkers of vanities have doubted. Nay here are signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject Our signs.}* (Al-`Ankabut 29:48–49)

Also if the Quran is the copy of the jews' or christian's holy book, then,the quran would have quoted them, being in dire need to challenge the opponents.

Please read, for example, the Qur’anic correction and reply to the Biblical distortions:

- Abraham was a Jew: 2:140; 3:65
- Allah tired from act of creation— Allah forbid: 50:38
- Jesus the son of God— Allah forbid: 9:30; 5:17
- Trinity: 5:72-73
- Sanctifying the Church: 3:64
- Solomon blaspheming: 2:102
- The first Qiblah: 3:96
- Forbidden foods: 3:93

Could a copy (i.e., the Qur’an, according to the allegation) correct the claimed original (i.e., Bible)?

Knowledge-wise, the Qur’an was proven to refer to and be precisely compatible with facts of science evolving over 14 centuries, a living proof of the authenticity of the Qur’an. This is contrasted to contradictions between the human Bible and science.

Kew Kah Fatt said...

See my new blog post.